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Rosemary Van Gelderen's avatar

I believe we agree somewhat on eschatology. I wonder what it would look like if Christ was not reigning? N Korea and Nigeria every day? Everywhere? I'm always amazed when dispensationalists point to Christ's imminent return because God wouldn't allow the N American church to suffer persecution. Read the Bible, Folks.

Also, amen to building his Kingdom! I came to amillennialism kicking and screaming by my 2 oldest son passing on what they had learned. However, I love the biblical viewpoint of his Kingdom increasing until it is ready to pass to the Father. It gives you so much more incentive to go out and spread the gospel. I find the view that everything will continue to degrade until Christ has to step in to rescue his Bride not very reassuring. My one son recently told me...you know, Mom, amillennialism is the car pool to post-millennialism! You better get in! lol

Butch Howard's avatar

Robert, I reread your comment several times. I confess I am so thoroughly entrenched in premillennialism it is quite difficult to even entertain your claims.

We must not forget our perspective and our Lord’s perspective are not the same. He sees reality in the eternal present. As we now live in this physical world our Lord’s sovereign reign seems to be yet future. Without the lens of faith we cannot see it any other way.

Yet, as you well know the Prophets often wrote their prophecies as though they were writing history.

Their visions seemed to be already passed.

The only way the eternal God can be who he says he is; he must reign beyond the constraints of space/time.

This is how he can be omniscient and omnipresent. He exists in the entire span of eternity as eternally present.

In this sense Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever. Therefore he is eternally sovereign in the eternal present.

Now, Jesus described himself to the theologians of his day as: “The I AM.”

This enraged them because he was claiming divine sovereignty well before the end of life on earth as it is today.

Almillennialism can only serve as a limited explanation of how humans understand Jesus as he seems to be not as he truly is. He is not going to be King of kings and Lord of lords. He already is.

John saw him in the mid 90s AD. He had a name already written: “King of kings and Lord of Lords.”

I continue to embrace historical premillennialism. I hope this clarifies my view for you.

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